Comments on: You’re Doing It Wrong https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/ Thomas LaRock is an author, speaker, data expert, and SQLRockstar. He helps people connect, learn, and share. Along the way he solves data problems, too. Fri, 26 Jun 2015 18:58:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: AjarnMark https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/#comment-1461 Fri, 07 May 2010 23:20:53 +0000 http://thomaslarock.com/?p=4160#comment-1461 Tom, that’s a good you make about accidental bias, which is exactly why I believe that if you are going to do surveys, you should get professional survey people to help. This is an attempt to mine for business intelligence, not just decide what kind of pizza to order for the company party. Therefore, having even a Full-Time staff position dedicated to surveys is not effective if they are not well-trained in the area of survey preparation. In this case, I’d say “buy” is a better option than “build”.

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By: Andy Warren https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/#comment-1460 Wed, 05 May 2010 13:41:33 +0000 http://thomaslarock.com/?p=4160#comment-1460 I agree with Brent, that he & Steve are writing op-ed pieces, and nothing wrong with that. It’s a useful function to have someone thinking and commenting. As long as anyone commenting is trying to make things better, I’ll listen to what they have to say.

I don’t think every complaint needs a solution. I think it’s worthwhile if you have ideas to list them clearly, and not make a probably slightly distressed reader/board member have to pull out the “fixes” – but that’s just me.

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By: Brent Ozar https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/#comment-1459 Tue, 04 May 2010 21:18:08 +0000 http://thomaslarock.com/?p=4160#comment-1459 Heh heh heh…all part of my master plan to get Christian’s laptop. SCORE!

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By: Christian Hasker https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/#comment-1458 Tue, 04 May 2010 21:16:08 +0000 http://thomaslarock.com/?p=4160#comment-1458 Wow – I have Brent down in writing saying I was right about something. I’m in shock. It’s defibrilla________________________________________________

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By: Brent Ozar https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/#comment-1457 Tue, 04 May 2010 21:13:12 +0000 http://thomaslarock.com/?p=4160#comment-1457 Oooo, you know, Christian’s right about the survey thing, and I’m not just saying that because he’s my boss. (Although that IS why I’m fetching him coffee right now, but that’s another story.) It reminds me of one of the questions the survey people used to ask when they were done with each question’s design. They’d say, “Fast forward three months. The survey comes in, and the answer is overwhelmingly in favor of answer A. Now what do you do?” They’d ask that of each answer (even ratings questions) and that helped the client determine what other followup questions to ask. Sometimes, though, all of the answers would be the same – “We don’t really have an action to take here.” In that case, the question comes off the survey.

For PASS, if the BoD has overwhelming factors that require the Summit to be in the same place, then it doesn’t matter what the answer is – take that question off the table. Focus the questions on what you really need guidance with, or don’t survey at all.

Christian rocks. (Again, not because he’s my boss. He’s stuck with me regardless.)

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By: Christian Hasker https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/#comment-1456 Tue, 04 May 2010 21:01:36 +0000 http://thomaslarock.com/?p=4160#comment-1456 Tom,

I am late to this party. As an independent observer I would recommend that PASS abandon transparency plans for the moment and go closed door ‘benevolent dictatorship’. I do believe that PASS’s intentions are good, and that they do want the best for and believe they are acting in the best interests of the community. However, there does appear to be a lack of a cohesive strategy, and watching it play out on the blogs, and in the comments of blogs, while entertaining, probably does not reflect that well on the organization right now. I would disagree with Brent on hiring the survey organization. I’d say that was a waste of money because really you had already made the decision to stay in Seattle. If you know what answer you want then there’s no point putting together a great survey :)(PS – I have been guilty of this before)

And so this isn’t taken as criticism without offering a solution here’s my recommendation:

– identify your key target audience (in my opinion this is your chapter leaders)
– do everything you can to make that target audience successful (if it’s chapter leaders help grow their attendance at user groups and SQL Saturdays), provide them a platform to get the word out, negotiate good rates with different providers of services, give them top notch material to re-purpose. (train the chapter leaders on presentation techniques, how to put on a great event etc.)
– you widen the pool of PASS HQ evangelists, you get more news out and input back from different groups.
– you become no longer reliant on a single event, but make the tons and tons of events that go on around the world every month more impactful.

Just some thoughts from someone interested, but not in the DBA club.

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By: Our Community and our resources - SQLServerTimes2 https://thomaslarock.com/2010/04/youre-doing-it-wrong/#comment-1455 Tue, 04 May 2010 15:53:22 +0000 http://thomaslarock.com/?p=4160#comment-1455 […] survey results.  There have been a number of blog posts about it – Brent Ozar (Blog/Twitter), Tom LaRock (Blog/Twitter), Steve Jones (Blog/Twitter) and Andy Warren(Blog/Twitter), to name a few.  […]

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