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		<title>By: More Twitter Love &#124; SQLRockstar</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>More Twitter Love &#124; SQLRockstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while back I wrote a post about why I do not like newsgroups, and how much better the MVP forums are. Some comments were left that indicated I was being an ass [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] while back I wrote a post about why I do not like newsgroups, and how much better the MVP forums are. Some comments were left that indicated I was being an ass [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ServerFault.com - Like StackOverflow, but for IT &#124; Brent Ozar - SQL Server DBA</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>ServerFault.com - Like StackOverflow, but for IT &#124; Brent Ozar - SQL Server DBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 14:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and newsgroups.  I can&#8217;t do a better job of explaining why than Tom LaRock did in his post Why I Dislike Newsgroups, including this bullet point [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and newsgroups.  I can&#8217;t do a better job of explaining why than Tom LaRock did in his post Why I Dislike Newsgroups, including this bullet point [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Benoit</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Benoit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice. I know I, and the others at that community, will appreciate your help. Yes, Gail, Grant, Jeff Moden, and other MVP&#039;s have been huge and having one more is always nice.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice. I know I, and the others at that community, will appreciate your help. Yes, Gail, Grant, Jeff Moden, and other MVP&#8217;s have been huge and having one more is always nice.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: SQLBatman</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>SQLBatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

I agree, we should make an effort to stay involved in other communities. Many MVPs are quite active in public forums. Gail Shaw at SSC comes to mind immediately.

My involvement at SSC or in other public forums is sporadic at best. This is the result of the medium and format for interactions in forums do not suit my style or needs.

My dislike for newsgroups and forums do not make them a bad thing, it just means I have found other ways to help people when possible. My participation in the MVP forums has shown me just how good forums can be, and given me incentive to go back and become more active. Why, just yesterday, I posted to a forum at SSC.

And it felt good.

thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>I agree, we should make an effort to stay involved in other communities. Many MVPs are quite active in public forums. Gail Shaw at SSC comes to mind immediately.</p>
<p>My involvement at SSC or in other public forums is sporadic at best. This is the result of the medium and format for interactions in forums do not suit my style or needs.</p>
<p>My dislike for newsgroups and forums do not make them a bad thing, it just means I have found other ways to help people when possible. My participation in the MVP forums has shown me just how good forums can be, and given me incentive to go back and become more active. Why, just yesterday, I posted to a forum at SSC.</p>
<p>And it felt good.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: David Benoit</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-510</link>
		<dc:creator>David Benoit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m intrigued by your post. A little disheartened as well. You see, standing on the outside, not being an MVP that is, we don&#039;t get to see that forum so, now we have someone telling us that the forums of all forums exists but, you can&#039;t have it. :)

The main thing that I think applies here is that they are not all perfect. Some really bad but there are some, namely SSC, which really have some very strong SQL talent that strive to make a solid community that has helped tons of people in their careers as DBA&#039;s and developers.

My encouragement to you and all MVP&#039;s is to become active in other communities, outside of the MVP community so that you can help make  a difference on a site and with those that haven&#039;t reached the skill level that you and others have. You have that opportunity before you. I can honestly tell you that when Paul Randal posts something on SSC about a recovery question, I read it. I&#039;m sure that the same could be said about you if you were on there or anywhere sharing the knowledge that you have attained.

Know what I mean? I have always thought that the best answer to a problem is a solution and I hope to be a part of that solution.

Thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m intrigued by your post. A little disheartened as well. You see, standing on the outside, not being an MVP that is, we don&#8217;t get to see that forum so, now we have someone telling us that the forums of all forums exists but, you can&#8217;t have it. <img src="http://thomaslarock.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif?9d7bd4" alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The main thing that I think applies here is that they are not all perfect. Some really bad but there are some, namely SSC, which really have some very strong SQL talent that strive to make a solid community that has helped tons of people in their careers as DBA&#8217;s and developers.</p>
<p>My encouragement to you and all MVP&#8217;s is to become active in other communities, outside of the MVP community so that you can help make  a difference on a site and with those that haven&#8217;t reached the skill level that you and others have. You have that opportunity before you. I can honestly tell you that when Paul Randal posts something on SSC about a recovery question, I read it. I&#8217;m sure that the same could be said about you if you were on there or anywhere sharing the knowledge that you have attained.</p>
<p>Know what I mean? I have always thought that the best answer to a problem is a solution and I hope to be a part of that solution.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: SQLBatman</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-509</link>
		<dc:creator>SQLBatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wendy,

not sure how it comes across that way, since i do not participate in newsgroups yet somehow became an MVP. and no, i did not mean to imply that only the smart people are at the MVP forum, i really meant to say that the private forums are much more pleasant to work with than the public ones. it is the difference between taking the bus to the airport and a private town car.

so, you do not need to be active in forums to become an MVP, i am living proof.

hope this helps, and sorry if i offended you, or anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wendy,</p>
<p>not sure how it comes across that way, since i do not participate in newsgroups yet somehow became an MVP. and no, i did not mean to imply that only the smart people are at the MVP forum, i really meant to say that the private forums are much more pleasant to work with than the public ones. it is the difference between taking the bus to the airport and a private town car.</p>
<p>so, you do not need to be active in forums to become an MVP, i am living proof.</p>
<p>hope this helps, and sorry if i offended you, or anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, there&#039;s this great forum but you only get to use it if you&#039;re an MVP, which means you&#039;ve been answering questions on other forums where just the dumb people are?
I&#039;m sure you didn&#039;t really mean it that way, but from a non-MVP standpoint that&#039;s what comes across.
For the record, I&#039;ve only posted once or twice to the msdn forums, never seeing any answers to my questions. I&#039;ve attempted to answer a few posts over the years on various boards, though most of the time the questions were already answered by others.
YMMV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, there&#8217;s this great forum but you only get to use it if you&#8217;re an MVP, which means you&#8217;ve been answering questions on other forums where just the dumb people are?<br />
I&#8217;m sure you didn&#8217;t really mean it that way, but from a non-MVP standpoint that&#8217;s what comes across.<br />
For the record, I&#8217;ve only posted once or twice to the msdn forums, never seeing any answers to my questions. I&#8217;ve attempted to answer a few posts over the years on various boards, though most of the time the questions were already answered by others.<br />
YMMV</p>
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		<title>By: David Stein</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-507</link>
		<dc:creator>David Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part I agree with you, however I just want to say that www.sqlteam.com is an excellent forum.  They have a few t-sql experts who have been amazingly helpful to me.

However, the other topics I sometimes research such as VBA, Crystal Reports, etc. I have yet to find quality help from any forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part I agree with you, however I just want to say that <a href="http://www.sqlteam.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sqlteam.com</a> is an excellent forum.  They have a few t-sql experts who have been amazingly helpful to me.</p>
<p>However, the other topics I sometimes research such as VBA, Crystal Reports, etc. I have yet to find quality help from any forums.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Swart</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Swart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shouldn&#039;t be too hard on newsgroups. They have their place in history, alongside 5 inch floppy disks for example.

It&#039;s just that the 5 inch floppy disk went extinct, it was because there were newer formats to obsolete the old and the newer computers no longer included hardware for it.

With newsgroups, sure, some things have come along that are better, but without forcing the newsgroups to be obsolete, they&#039;ll just keep kicking around.

Think of the dollar coin. In Canada the dollar coin was introduced and dollar notes were no longer printed. The dollar coin was accepted very quickly. In America, the dollar coin has yet to be accepted in the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t be too hard on newsgroups. They have their place in history, alongside 5 inch floppy disks for example.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that the 5 inch floppy disk went extinct, it was because there were newer formats to obsolete the old and the newer computers no longer included hardware for it.</p>
<p>With newsgroups, sure, some things have come along that are better, but without forcing the newsgroups to be obsolete, they&#8217;ll just keep kicking around.</p>
<p>Think of the dollar coin. In Canada the dollar coin was introduced and dollar notes were no longer printed. The dollar coin was accepted very quickly. In America, the dollar coin has yet to be accepted in the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: SQLBatman</title>
		<link>http://thomaslarock.com/2009/04/why-i-dislike-newsgroups/comment-page-1/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>SQLBatman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s hilarious...someone telling you that your answer is wrong, given the fact that you wrote the underlying code?

Yes, I do agree that the forums at SSC are above average in terms of quality. In fact, they may be the only forums I participate in from time to time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s hilarious&#8230;someone telling you that your answer is wrong, given the fact that you wrote the underlying code?</p>
<p>Yes, I do agree that the forums at SSC are above average in terms of quality. In fact, they may be the only forums I participate in from time to time.</p>
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